tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2065164884737080821.post1069021387009961308..comments2023-10-17T14:31:52.102-04:00Comments on Est Quod Est: Back to the basementsPaulihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17506171638613025839noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2065164884737080821.post-6231849542022050242011-11-18T08:52:01.801-05:002011-11-18T08:52:01.801-05:00You're right, Barb, this phony movement is dri...You're right, Barb, this phony movement is driven by those who want to be in charge of such a government. Clue #1 of that is that their main beef is 3 years old -- the bailouts happened in late 2008 to early 2009. Makes me think the whole thing is drummed up for timing's sake. <br /><br />The OWS sheep following those Pied Pipers (mixed allusion, I know) are simply the useful idiots who haven't thought it through. <br /><br />I wonder whether the plan is to continue it through next summer. Seems a risky bargain to me -- so I'm sticking with my guess (comment 2) that the plan is to let time pass so that OWS takes on its romantic allure for the election, having lost its nasty little details along the way.pikkumattihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04929135762224920473noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2065164884737080821.post-84543090303631982852011-11-17T12:09:55.885-05:002011-11-17T12:09:55.885-05:00pikkumatti, the OWSers don't want to live unde...pikkumatti, the OWSers don't want to live <i>under</i> a government that has that much power. They want to be <i>in charge</i> of that government. The useless degrees from universities with all the "right" names didn't get them the cushy path to Easy Street that they imagined they would.<br /><br />Also, what do you think of the claim that OWS was just a warm-up for next summer?Barb the Evil Geniushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04635449477605703171noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2065164884737080821.post-18380427319305338812011-11-16T21:25:42.124-05:002011-11-16T21:25:42.124-05:00I'm guessing that few of the OWS "thinker...I'm guessing that few of the OWS "thinkers" would want to live under a government with the power that they are clamoring for the government to have. <br /><br />Funny thing about Utopia is that nobody really wants to live there. John Lennon wrote "Imagine" but lived on the Upper West Side.pikkumattihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04929135762224920473noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2065164884737080821.post-66478890452056618742011-11-16T20:31:34.407-05:002011-11-16T20:31:34.407-05:00They don't want to overthrow the government. T...They don't want to overthrow the government. They want to overthrow everything else.Paulihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17506171638613025839noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2065164884737080821.post-87502473152551890182011-11-16T07:18:04.065-05:002011-11-16T07:18:04.065-05:00Tents and sleeping bags signify commitment at the ...Tents and sleeping bags signify commitment at the creature discomfort level.<br /><br />And yes, the fact that no one can say just what it's a commitment <i>to</i> works in the favor of opponents of opponents of OWS. Weeks back, one of the NYT columnists wrote to the effect that, though the protesters couldn't quite articulate what they want, we all know what they mean, and now it's up to us to go and fix things -- and what regular reader of NYT columnists could disagree? We owe it to these protesters to honor their commitment by implementing what we want.<br /><br />(There's also been a certain amount of projection from opponents of OWS; the protesters can't both not know what they want and all want to overthrow the government at the same time.)Tomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09534284662785499386noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2065164884737080821.post-63686922184054591292011-11-16T06:30:40.857-05:002011-11-16T06:30:40.857-05:00considering their attitudes about not wanting the ...<i>considering their attitudes about not wanting the homeless sharing "their" stuff. Even though a lot of the largesse has been donated by others.</i><br /><br />So many ironies, so little time!Dianehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15528066705030924413noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2065164884737080821.post-40074838660401296352011-11-16T06:29:47.753-05:002011-11-16T06:29:47.753-05:00Regardless of the value of any of these messages, ...<i>Regardless of the value of any of these messages, why is a tent and sleeping bag a good way to communicate them?</i><br /><br />That's what I've been wondering all along. How on earth does a giant camp-out accomplish ANYTHING? (Except to spread STDs and TB.) I don't get it.Dianehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15528066705030924413noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2065164884737080821.post-77798673324375303692011-11-15T12:28:22.582-05:002011-11-15T12:28:22.582-05:00Now for the bad news: even if OWS is over, suffic...Now for the bad news: even if OWS is over, sufficient time will pass prior to next year's election for the icky details about rapes, murders, etc. to fade away. That will let the media and the Dems reconstruct OWS as a pure and innocent Movement of the People, of which Obama is the spiritual leader in the class struggle. There are lots of fools who will swallow that story.pikkumattihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04929135762224920473noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2065164884737080821.post-31474891621843065422011-11-15T11:37:54.401-05:002011-11-15T11:37:54.401-05:00Don't be too quick on calling OWS over, Pauli....Don't be too quick on calling OWS over, Pauli. They've already gotten a temporary restraining order from a lefty judge, and they're fighting to get back in.<br /><br />As far as the rich sharing with the poor, their optics are not too good with that, considering their attitudes about not wanting the homeless sharing "their" stuff. Even though a lot of the largesse has been donated by others.Barb the Evil Geniushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04635449477605703171noreply@blogger.com