tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2065164884737080821.post2618243768501209193..comments2023-10-17T14:31:52.102-04:00Comments on Est Quod Est: Mark Shea Deserves PraisePaulihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17506171638613025839noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2065164884737080821.post-9771943053001414972010-04-20T16:20:59.550-04:002010-04-20T16:20:59.550-04:00Oh boy. More kind "advice" for the Chu...Oh boy. <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/18/opinion/18kristof.html" rel="nofollow"> More kind "advice" for the Church from the dinosaur media. </a> (And much along the lines of what Lady Peggy Noonan had offered.) <br /><br />To paraphrase, it's the usual suggestion that the Church should just stop being so . . . so <i>Catholic</i>, and everything will be just fine.pikkumattihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04929135762224920473noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2065164884737080821.post-46814454157516707882010-04-19T13:39:00.789-04:002010-04-19T13:39:00.789-04:00First, cheers for the Mark Shea piece. Good for h...First, cheers for the Mark Shea piece. Good for him. <br /><br />Second, maybe "demons" is the most accurate conclusion, especially considering Crunchy's reference to his "sacred duty as a journalist". <br /><br />Why do Dreher and Noonan insist on joining the dogpile on this topic, anyway? Do they think that Benedict is wondering what they are going to say, or that he is waiting for their advice on what to do? And it is not like there is any vacuum of "journalism" on this topic already. If one were to give them the benefit of the doubt, one would have to wonder what they hoped to accomplish with these pieces. <br /><br />We can see at least part Peggy Noonan's motivation right from her own piece. She sets out to "save the Church" and then spends over half her space regurgitating a piece she wrote in 2002 (leaving no space to explain why her "solution" would be of any help). Seems she's feathering the bed for something she'll be writing years hence, regardless of what happens between now and then (given that the facts didn't matter to her this time, either). <br /><br />We can only guess at Dreher's motivation, as we have. <br /><br />The sad part is that both are serving as Useful Idiots to those seeking destruction of the Church. Especially useful, given their Catholic (Noonan) and recently-Catholic (Dreher) status. We'd all be better off if they weren't playing that role.pikkumattihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04929135762224920473noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2065164884737080821.post-51152783265625722922010-04-19T09:13:22.391-04:002010-04-19T09:13:22.391-04:00Yeah, re: demons. Years ago I figured Rod's Ca...Yeah, re: demons. Years ago I figured Rod's Catholic-bashing was all part of a reflex to justify his leaving the Catholic Church. Remember our <a href="http://delicious.com/pauli67/bash" rel="nofollow">bash list?</a> Some of his stuff was infuriating, but a lot of it was laughable, e.g. outrage at the church's use of styrofoam cups and mail-order ashes for Ash Wednesday.<br /><br />But now it appears that it goes deeper and involves letting the NYT, Noonan and everybody in his industry completely off the hook for willfully believing lies and coming up with deceptive and inaccurate headlines merely to harm the church. I was hoping that Rod would see the latest flare up as an occasion to call out the liars and step into the light, but no; he has follwed his industry and descended instead.Paulihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17506171638613025839noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2065164884737080821.post-6631325770347598572010-04-19T08:53:07.064-04:002010-04-19T08:53:07.064-04:00Posted this at Mark's blog:
I was thinking ab...Posted this at Mark's blog:<br /><br />I was thinking about this last night. Templeton is an interfaith foundation. Moreover, it (presumably) depends on grants and donations. Therefore, it cannot afford to alienate potential donors. And there must be plenty of monied Catholics out there who would qualify as potential donors. How will they react to relentless public Catholic-bashing by a Templeton employee? I know how I would react -- I'd zip my purse and keep it zipped. <br /> <br />For Rod's sake -- both for his soul's sake and for the sake of his career -- he really needs to let up on the Catholic bashing.Dianehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15528066705030924413noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2065164884737080821.post-36070328068733780132010-04-19T08:50:44.497-04:002010-04-19T08:50:44.497-04:00I nearly keeled over in shock when I read Mark'...I nearly keeled over in shock when I read Mark's piece. I am still reeling.<br /><br />Maybe Rod will heed the advice of a friend like Mark. I doubt it, though. Rod's inner demons seem to be driving him. I am seriously feeling sorry for the guy. Lord, have mercy.Dianehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15528066705030924413noreply@blogger.com