tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2065164884737080821.post5543113772622819515..comments2023-10-17T14:31:52.102-04:00Comments on Est Quod Est: Homeschools and StylitesPaulihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17506171638613025839noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2065164884737080821.post-67818771269972357052007-04-06T12:16:00.000-04:002007-04-06T12:16:00.000-04:00i don't know pauli. she says herself that she get...i don't know pauli. she says herself that she gets a lot less grief for homeschooling than she "steeled herself" for. some people look for reasons to feel aggrieved. plus she's having dinner with "old friends" here -- if my old friend wrote an article about our dinner like sally wrote i'd be peeved (the line where she says something like "I supposed the only reason they didn't inquire about socialization is what was happening right before their eyes" -- snotty much?) <BR/><BR/>the only reason i would begrudge someone their homeschooling is if i thought they were lording it over me or my kids somehow. beyond that, i don't really much care, and i doubt sally's "old friends" much cared either, though it seems like sally was ready (itching?) for a fight. more likely, she wants her sacrifice to be recognized, but she won't be getting any gold stars for her sacrifice from society or "old friends", and she seems a bit annoyed by that. <BR/><BR/>an honest apologia for homeschooling would include the downsides, is all. or even an acknowledgment that there are any.kathleenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09760546833628880462noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2065164884737080821.post-32310002516807168782007-04-05T20:40:00.000-04:002007-04-05T20:40:00.000-04:00I'll say that homeschoolers have to watch getting ...I'll say that homeschoolers have to watch getting a martyr's complex or a holier-than-thou attitude, or even just the "of course we homeschool" variety of uppitiness.<BR/><BR/>As for the annoying and snarky quality of the apologia, I like it. I can be pretty damn annoying to a wide variety of people, at least as much as Sally here (although she's a more accomplished writer methinks) and dissing those on the other side who sniff and scoff at homeschoolers can be regarded as simply too great a temptation sometimes.Paulihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17506171638613025839noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2065164884737080821.post-9320102491479812282007-04-05T18:05:00.000-04:002007-04-05T18:05:00.000-04:00I think the lack of socialization could be a valid...I think the lack of socialization could be a valid point. "socialization" is a vague term -- it could mean a variety of things to people. <BR/>homeschoolers have to face the fact that they ARE missing out on certain stuff -- just as non-homeschoolers are missing out on certain stuff. no one has it all. if you want to call what homeschoolers are missing out on "socialization", then the point seems valid. in schools (assuming a basic level of comptence therein) kids get a sense of where there talents lie in relation to other kids, there's a keener sense of competition which can be beneficial, and there's also a "forced" exposure to people who might not appear at first to be simpatico, but turn out to be otherwise. <BR/><BR/>i can do without the tone of this particular first things article. homeschoolers getting all snippily righteous are annoying, the subtext being here "of course my kid is socialized, you freaking moron!" -- thanks, i can do without the snark sally<BR/><BR/>frankly i don't see that there needs to be a bright line between homeschoolers and non-homeschoolers -- there are some years and/or individuals that might be better suited to homeschooling than otherskathleenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09760546833628880462noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2065164884737080821.post-80556745088845145212007-04-05T17:08:00.000-04:002007-04-05T17:08:00.000-04:00I never really found the "homeschool kids don't ge...I never really found the "homeschool kids don't get sufficiently socialized" argument to be persuasive, because I remember going to public school with quite a few kids who were pretty socially inept (or delinquent) and pretty much stayed that way well after high school.Roger H.https://www.blogger.com/profile/03548346750315438363noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2065164884737080821.post-34653019987056794232007-04-05T16:11:00.000-04:002007-04-05T16:11:00.000-04:00As not-yet parents, my wife and I have thought alo...As not-yet parents, my wife and I have thought alot about homeschooling, and the socialization argument never made sense to me. Since when do schools provide the only opportunity for socialization? If the school setting is the only appropriate place to instill social schools, then it's a wonder we survived so long without widely available public education until the middle of the 19th century.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com