"The Church Remains"

Here's a good interview with Cardinal Orti from Inside the Vatican regarding the Spanish Civil War. Recently there was a beatification of 498 martyrs from the religious persecution under the Republican (i.e, Stalinist) government of 1930s Spain. Over 10,000 people were killed for being Roman Catholic during that time, both lay and religious. I sent the link to Jonah Goldberg, maybe he'll comment on it in the LF Blog which I've been a little lax in keeping up with. Here's how the interview concludes:

Interviewer: Socialist, Communist and Masonic parties are in power in Spain nowadays. They see the Church in the same way as the Republicans who tried to destroy her 70 years ago. Needless to say, nobody kills priests and nuns or burns religious buildings, but the Church is perceived as a hindrance to the real progress of Spain and the whole of mankind, as an institution to marginalize and reduce to silence, being the holder of a conservative vision of man, an ideological adversary. Zapatero seems to be willing to create a new world, a new man in Spain.

VICENTE CARCEL ORTI: This is typical of all left-wing totalitarian regimes. Stalin too intended to create a new man; so did Pol Pot. Freedom is at risk in Spain, as the state is trying to interfere with people's private lives, to impose a given way of life, to decide how they must bring up their children, etc. It is not enough for laws to be passed by a parliament to be right. As there is only one voice to defend man's good, attempts are being made to hush it. Yet, whilst politicians are voted into and out of power, the Church remains.