Monday, August 5, 2013

More material documenting combox Nazism at The "American" "Conservative"

Speaking of comments not being approved over at The "American" "Conservative", a blogger named Thomas O. Meehan has posted numerous examples over at his site Odysseus on the Rocks of his comments not being approved by Rod Dreher and others. Mr. Meehan is an interesting example to me because I think he's much closer to Amconmag's way of thinking on certain foreign policy issues than I am. But, like us, he is utterly perplexed at how they can continue to advertise themselves as being conservative after displaying so much Obama-love and espousing so many liberal views. He writes this:

I was going to post something later on the President's faux impromptu speech to the White House press corps. And then I noticed an almost giddy puff piece in TAC by some kid they recently hired named Jonathan Coppage. Let me say that this is just the latest signal from TAC that they no longer wish to be considered Conservative in any way beyond their masthead. Along with Coppage's love letter to our mulatto messiah, there was a piece by Goldman attacking the 2nd amendment, a piece by Jacobs in the same vane and a really shameful piece by Millman whining about Human Bio-Diversity. So It's official, TAC is now a sham. It has devolved into a spineless exercise, a hermaphrodite among the journals. It is neither really conservative or left. It is a talking shop for those worshiping at the plastic shrine of the goddess NICE.

[Nota bene, I try not to use the term mulatto even as an adjective, but Kurt used it as a noun, so it probably can't be racist.]

Meehan's entire post is worth reading. I don't know if they published this comment, he doesn't say. Someone else can do that research if they wish. While you're at it, find out if Amconmag has any openly gay traditional religious conservative bloggers yet. They're due for a token of that important conservative voting bloc.

The way I discovered Thomas Meehan was through a snarky comment of his that was published on Jeremy Beer's review of The Little Way of Ruthie Leming. It's a short comment which I would be proud of writing, subtle but deadly:

This is a very timely and necessary review given Dreher’s extreme reluctance to publicize or advance himself in any way.

Isn't that good? See, that's the trick you need to use if you want a chance at getting a comment approved. He begins with perceived flattery: "This is a very timely and necessary review", but then he packs the business end of his argument in the subordinate clause. It's the Trojan Horse model, and it worked in this case.

Here's another interesting post from about a year ago about comment approval over at Amconmag.

A comment of mine was "excised" by Wick Allison over at the American Conservative last week. Excised is his term for his culling of comments that violate his criteria for respectability. An informed source tells me that Allison is the censor for all comments, without reference to the wishes of the writers. Curious that, considering they pay people to write but don't trust them to manage their own comments. Well, at least they're honest about it.

This is another step in the devolution of TAC from it's nationalist/traditionalist beginnings to something lesser and disappointing. TAC has come to suffer from a form of multiple personality disorder. It still publishes Pat Buchanan's and Jim Pinkerton's articles but it also publishes the work of Kelly Vlahos, resident harridan at the left wing Antiwar.com. Rod Dreher is on board writing from deepest, darkest Louisiana representing the childish crunchy-cons while Daniel Larison does a grand job deconstructing Republican talking points in the manner of a dissertation defense. He also does a very creditable job as agent of the vast pan-slavic mind view. That is, the Russian government ought to pay him. I'm not suggesting that they do, but that's how good he is at advancing the let's not be beastly toward the bear meme. Lately, to further extend the big tent into a three ring circus, TAC brought on people like Noah Millman who at least make no pretense at being a conservative.

He claims he has a source for Wick Allison being the main comment censor, and I don't doubt this claim. It rings true because this level of micromanagement is so odd that I can imagine any eye-witness to it would be willing to relate his strange experience. I have the experience of Wick Allison personally returning emails which was a little bit surprising to me.

The thing that is hard to remember in the aftermath of having a comment deleted is that you most likely scored a point. This is because you're irritated that it wasn't published. That means that you have to go and start your own blog—or go to someone else's who shares your opinion—and relate it there where it won't be excised. But here's the thing: this is the mainstream conservative experience in modern America. The mainstream media—which is dyed-in-the-skin liberal to leftist—used to practically control all the information that got out there, and they still control it to a great degree. Then we had the talk radio revolution—spearheaded by Rush Limbaugh, Fox news and the conservative pundits and blogger on the internet. Sites like Washington Examiner provide the counter-balance to WaPo even though they scrapped their print edition. Think of how the liberal mainstream media have tried desperately to censor so many huge stories. Any good news from Iraq back in the Bush years, anything bad about Islam, the Kermit Gosnell case, the dirt on Trayvon and his whacked gang connections, the Benghazi cover-up, etc., etc. But they can't always readily do this, thanks to alternative conservative media.

So the really pathetic thing about Amconmag is that they're doing what the drive-by media does on a tiny little scale. They really aren't much bigger in popularity than someone like R. S. McCain, and they are dwarfed by NRO and Hotair.com (source = alexa.com). By using a fine-tooth comb on comments with which they don't agree, they are just forcing people like Thomas O. Meehan to drop his subscription and to join the chorus of other conservatives in the rest of the world who doubt there's anything very conservative or even American about the "American" "Conservative". And they'll never engage us naysayers directly since they wouldn't want to give us hits, or maybe because their noses are at such a steep angle that they can barely even see us.


(Update: I added Meehan's middle initial after finding out he shares a name with a famous comedy screenwriter.)

18 comments:

  1. TAC is DTV for post-graduates instead of home-bound women and gays.

    Keith

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  2. Color me clueless. but, until Dreher joined AmConMag, I had never heard of it. I mean never. And I think I'm fairly well rea, but obviously I'm not up on all the iterations of conservative and pseudo-conservative media out there..

    Even when I did hear of AmConMag (after Dreher's noisy entrance there), I just assumed it was incredibly obscure, with a minuscule niche readership. But I guess it's a tad bigger than I thought. Who knew?

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  3. Re the micro-maanged combox: As you point out, Pauli, that is soooooo Old Media.

    Wick & Co. to watch a flick called The Naked Brand. I agree with the basic point it makes: If you're not getting with the Customer-Is-In-Control program, you're doomed. Whether you're a corporation or a media outlet.

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  4. Wick & Co. NEED to watch a flick....

    Ack, I am typing way too fast. Leaving out letters and words. Sorry!

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  5. http://www.amazon.com/The-Naked-Brand-Alex-Bogusky/dp/B00AAOHTPK

    Yeah, the movie has a leftist environmentalist message, but that's actually pretty easy to ignore. The big takeaway is: The customer is in control. No more "command-and-control" marketing and media, because that crap just doesn't work anymore.

    Change "customer" to "comboxer" in the case of online media. Same difference. Whether you're posting a comment at Topix or a review at Amazon, you should have some measure of control. If you are at the mercy of a micro-managing control freak, you'll just wise up and go elsewhere/.

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  6. Thanks for the notice. I must say that I started my blog long before commenting at TAC was an issue for me. Also, Dreher doesn't block my comments anymore as I just refuse to give him the chance.

    Dreher is an interesting case. According to a source, he was paid big bucks to come over to TAC. Of course I have no idea how much that is. I suspect that is modest compared to other prosperous media.

    I find Dreher objectionable on a number of grounds. His act is to encourage a readership of liberal pseudo-religious scolds, then show them the red flag via a reference to HBD. They go ballistic on him, he gets blog hits and the game repeats itself endlessly. This, and his endless, cloying "John Boy" among the mean sophisticates pose is just not to my taste. Finally, am I alone in finding self promotion by dint of a book about the death of a family member a little off-putting?
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  7. Thanks for the notice. I must say that I started my blog long before commenting at TAC was an issue for me. Also, Dreher doesn't block my comments anymore as I just refuse to give him the chance.

    Dreher is an interesting case. According to a source, he was paid big bucks to come over to TAC. Of course I have no idea how much that is. I suspect that is modest compared to other prosperous media.

    I find Dreher objectionable on a number of grounds. His act is to encourage a readership of liberal pseudo-religious scolds, then show them the red flag via a reference to HBD. They go ballistic on him, he gets blog hits and the game repeats itself endlessly. This, and his endless, cloying "John Boy" among the mean sophisticates pose is just not to my taste. Finally, am I alone in finding self promotion by dint of a book about the death of a family member a little off-putting?
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    1. Finally, am I alone in finding self promotion by dint of a book about the death of a family member a little off-putting?

      Thomas you're certainly not alone in that over here. For starters you can read the following:

      All Est Quod Est posts on the Ruthie Leming book

      All Est Quod Est posts on Rod Dreher

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    2. "Ghoulish" is the word I use.I mean...UGH.

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    3. Meehan: Finally, am I alone in finding self promotion by dint of a book about the death of a family member a little off-putting?

      I tell you. Meehan deserves some kind of award for understatement.

      I gave TLWORL a kind of favorable review. I thought the book was passable, problematic in several places, but definitely not any kind of breath-taking and stunning work of surpassing genius.

      But, whoa, RD's relentless promotion of the book got to be nearly … how to describe it? … Relentless? Incessant? Nearly obscene? Ghastly?

      It had me flabbergasted that anyone would go to that length hawking a book about a close, deceased relative.

      Then there was that blog posting where RD seemed to be talking to someone about doing a movie version. I just could not believe that he was serious. But I guess he was.

      Lately, or for a while, he seemed to tone it down a little.

      Then came these completely bizarre postings about "modern vs post-modern" or "anthropological and/or gastronomic" speculations about his sister. Next, there came the idea of writing a novel where he works out all these ideas about his sister Ruthie. It seemed as if he wanted to repudiate his own book somehow and rewrite a new one.

      I tell you. At that point, I thought the poor man had gone completely bonkers. But was even more astonishing to me was that the people in the comboxes actually seemed to take all this nonsense seriously.

      Anyhow, Pauli, this article about TAC was very interesting to me. I have often wondered why its name uses the word "conservative" in its title. There doesn't seem all that much that's conservative about it.

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  8. Coppage makes me think of "coprophagia"

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  9. A comment of mine was "excised" by Wick Allison over at the American Conservative last week. Excised is his term for his culling of comments that violate his criteria for respectability. An informed source tells me that Allison is the censor for all comments, without reference to the wishes of the writers. Curious that, considering they pay people to write but don't trust them to manage their own comments. Well, at least they're honest about it.

    If this is true on Dreher's blog, then when Dreher tells his commenters he decides which comments get "published"*, he must be...what's the word I'm looking for here?

    *Because, really, "approval" is a primitive, emotional function, unlike the far more intellectual and professional function of "editing" comments for "publication". OTOH, "curating comments", as in UPDATE: Let me put it like this — when I curate the comments section..., is really just drooling megalomania, don't you think? You curate the discovery of Troy, even a prized comic books collection. Not so much blog comments, Ed Grimley.

    Unless of course: before they're "curated" they're people; after, they're some sort of processed, Soylent Green Dreher-kibble.

    Dreher-blogging is like cooking: you start with the post as the basis, then add selective people, gutted and de-boned into processed comment-kibble as desired until you have a delicious harmony of bubbling Dreher-flavor.

    Keith

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  10. Keith: … a delicious harmony of bubbling Dreher-flavor.

    LOL. As usual, Keith, you're way ahead of the curve over all of us. Somebody has got to find a graphic to go with that verbal description. I dare not imagine what it would be.

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  11. Has anyone seen yesterday's installment in the continuing series of Mystical-Schmystical Dreherrhea? Someone linked to it over at Gabriel Sanchez' blog. It pretty much has to be seen to be believed.

    I didn't read beyond the first paragraph, but that was enough and then some. Apparently Dreher had a Mystical Experience in his backyard church, similar to the trance state enjoyed by those Krishna Consciousness dudes after their fifth or sixth round of "Krishna, Krishna, Hare, Hare." OK, whatever. When guys start quoting poetry, though, I decamp from the discussion. Reminds me of the MIT student I dated back when I was a youngun: He brought a volume of Keats to the date and proceeded to read from it to me. I couldn't get out of there fast enough. And hey, I actually like Keats.

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    1. My own inexpert opinion about experiencing infused contemplation: Don't blog about it.

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  12. Let me reinterpret the section referring to Larison and Russia:

    "Mark Shea does a not-so-grand job deconstructing Republican talking points in the manner of a reactive curmudgeon. He also does a very creditable job as agent of the vast pan-Islamist mind view. That is, the Iranian government ought to pay him. I'm not suggesting that they do, but that's how good he is at advancing the let's not be beastly toward the mullahs meme."

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    1. Yes, Mark's writing on matters touching Islam is textbook dhimmitude more often than not.

      I'm pleased to see that Dr. Scott Hahn -- a Catholic apologist that Shea et al highly approve -- has blurbed Robert Spencer's new book abotu Islam from a Christian perspective, "Not Peace But a Sword".

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