Phil Robertson: "We never, ever judge someone."
Wow, Phil Robertson from Duck Dynasty agrees with Pope Francis and the Catholic faith about homosexuality. Excerpt:
We never, ever judge someone
I know that excerpt pretty much tells you everything you need to know about what Phil Robertson said, but really, RTWT*. It's awesome.
(* - Read The Whole Thing)
Actually Duck Dynasty man was harder hitting than Pope Francis, since he pointed out that God judges. The Pope didn't bother to do that.
ReplyDeleteThat's why the one guy got Time Man of the Year, and the other got banned from television.
DeleteThe Pope knows when to pipe down. Ain't that lucky for us catholics?
DeleteAnd where would we be without RD's perspicacious commentary on the matter? "The thing I like about the Robertsons is they’ll be good country people after this is over with. "
ReplyDeleteI was under the impression that they are good people now.
DeleteI see that Dreher is now fixating on a new religious leader these days, so much so as to force a reference to her into the Phil Robertson commentary.
DeleteWhile for now Dreher says he disagree[s] with her fairly radically on many points of moral theology, we of course know how long the half-life will be on that (assuming it's true to begin with).
I see that Dreher is now fixating on a new religious leader these days...
DeletePik, this is only of a piece with his hilariously self-contradictory covering of every possible base or POV on Pope Francis in order to leave no potential reader, commenter, or TLWORL buyer feeling left out.
The same thing with his full court press on Phil Robertson and his plain speaking. Dreher can only dream of having Robertson's testicles, but since speaking out as plainly as Robertson does about homosexuality might alienate large portions of the readership he panders to, the only thing he can muster is making weak, roundabout suggestive arguments about subjunctive religious liberty infringements and then try to dive headfirst into Robertson's shorts for an associative ridealong while simultaneously concern trolling him when opportunities like this present themselves hoping the rubes won't notice the difference.
Keith
That grrl pastor has the same hairstyle as Rod!
DeleteI was thinking the same thing, Pauli: that hair and those glasses sure look familiar...
DeleteAnd if they mated, their offspring would be this guy.
DeleteIt's not over yet, and he never fails to disappoint, because it looks like Dreher is still going to milk this affair for every drop its worth.
DeleteHe waxes grandiloquent: "People are complicated. They are not problems, but mysteries".
And of course, somewhere in there, his book about his departed sister makes a cameo appearance.
Well, I guess the books sales and the web hits are important — whatever it takes to keep the boudin coming.
Wow! Rod has gotten on a roll about "Duckgate", and it's unstoppable. Somehow he drags together Dante, and Jeremiah Wright, and the Robertsons, and Obama, and Charles H. Featherstone, and the Pope. How'd he manage to do all that? But lo! He has some kind of very deep and philosophical point to make.
Delete"The point — and I do have one, somewhere in this!"
Rod, we are left speechless at your profound insights. Are we indeed seeing the makings of your next great book? My mind beggars at what the title would be. We had been anticipating a book about the "(Eggs) Benediction Option", but instead will the book be titled something like L'indignation des canards ?
You can bet there will be more from Dreher on this, Oengus. Dreher's Paris buddy "TNC" has a little different take on Duckgate than does Dreher, given the subtitle:
DeleteThe Duck Dynasty star's warped vision of civil-rights history feeds his warped view of today's gay-rights struggle.
Dreher will have to apply all of his skillz to square the circle around that. But you know he'll try, if for no other reason than to keep the theme alive.
A&E, on the other hand, judges.
ReplyDeleteI think the words to capture the tone of Dreher's jealous concern trolling over Phil Robertson's situation at A&E today are "glee unbounded". He had to leave off furiously territory-marking his alternately disdained, now-beloved "Go, Pope, go, with your crunchy-con self!" and ranking his book alongside Dante's Divine Comedy as a Christmas gift with that narcissistic hyena anal gland of his in order to shovel Duck serving number 3 into his pie hole. Time to hit up Cousin Ken up West Monroe way again and try to score another quick signing at the Day's Inn while the iron's still hot.
ReplyDeleteI think we can all breathe a sigh of relief though, that, until Dreher can cook up an unconfirmable legend of a weeping Ruthie gravestone to bring the pilgrims in for signings by the bus load, "the Ruthie Leming thing", unlike "the Duck Dynasty thing" will remain forever in vain and forlorn pursuit of its own overexposed sell-by date on Spotify.
You know, Phil Robertson still has skills - he can still make duck calls. He'll do fine. After the upcoming April 15 paperback release date for TLWORL comes and goes, though, if I'm a Dreher relative with any type of story potential to me Ima getting mighty nervous if I see Cousin Rod sniffing around...
Keith
Phil Robertson, as usual, cuts directly to the heart of the issue: Biology matters, and it matters in a moral sense.
ReplyDeleteThe only response that can be made to his stating of this irrefutable premise is, of course, personal attacks and "this is not the position of ..." blather, as we have seen. They cannot attack the premise itself without causing the entire "moral" case for SSM to fall apart.
Personal attacks AND outright lies, or at least statements reflecting what the person desperately wishes to be true instead of what actually is.
Delete"Phil and his family claim to be Christian, but Phil’s lies about an entire community fly in the face of what true Christians believe,” GLAAD spokesperson Wilson Cruz said in a statement.
Quoting the Bible about sin and the need for salvation? "True" Christians just don't do that.
Because when I want to know what true Christianity is, I turn to GLAAD, just like Jesus told me to do.
DeleteApropos of everything, what kind of ads are you guys seeing pop up on TAC this holiday season?
ReplyDeleteNot seeing anything yet, either with my adblocking software on or off, but I did notice that since I mocked it their sidebar is no longer begging for money in order to bring the world "healthy" conservatism. Prolly just coincidence though.
DeleteKeith
I don't know about the ads, but Pauli, don't you know that TAC is "Fighting the Conservative-Industrial Complex"?
DeleteBesides, RD says: "Help! Support TAC or they’ll take away my boudin!"
RD: I came to value its role as a dissenting voice to the groupthink and ideological straightjacketing that had come to characterize the American right.
DeleteYeah, conservatives NEVER disagree about anything, do they?
Looks like Dreher's now on some sort of end of the year low self esteem roundup tour: in two different recent posts he unnecessarily announces that he was just on TV (it was Al Jazeera, because you take what you can get) and in another that he once was a playa in Washington, D.C.
DeleteNow he's running pledge breaks to keep his belly in boudin. How the mighty not only have fallen but also are painfully conscious of it.
Keith
He seems to take special note that "whoring" is legal in Canada (after several of his commenters had to remind him of this). Perhaps he is afraid of the competition from the Great White North?
DeleteI think this shitstorm over what Phil Robertson said is an example of why Pope Francis said that "it is not necessary" for the pastoral ministry Church to obsess on these hot button issues -- because that focus and the cultural response to that focus gets in the way of the Church "making disciples" in response to the Great Commandment (and which Evangelii Gaudium is calling for).
ReplyDeleteThe teachings of the Church regarding sexual matters is far from being a secret, and are not going to change. But in the media these days, and in the culture at large, it is All Gay All the Time (or, as Mark Steyn said, it has gone from the-love-that-dare-not-speak-its-name to the love-that-will-not-shut-up). And for a change in pace, we get the War on Women. Anything that dares to challenge the trump card of sexual license faces a fire hose of vitriol, especially if that challenge goes to the heart of the matter as Phil R did. The backlash becomes overwhelming, and any larger points get swamped if not shut down, as in the case of Duck Dynasty.
Part of what may have driven GLAAD over the edge, I think, may have been that Robertson tore down the veil by explicitly announcing the obvious: that the point of gay love and gay marriage is butt-sex. Two male dolls on a wedding cake are so euphemistically cute that they're suitable for proselytizing even 'tweens. Those same two butt-humping like dogs, though, brings a real that I don't think the genteel tolerance sphere is quite ready for just yet, even though that's what they're implicitly lobbying for.
DeleteAnd the implicit corollary of this carries the same problem for them: public school birds 'n bees classes for yewts must now inevitably include the mechanics of homosexual sex - how can that now possibly be avoided?
"What did you learn in school today, dear?"
"We learned how babies are made, and we also learned how boys have sex with boys and girls with girls"
"Ohh..."
Keith
Agreed, Keith. Phil R brought out the very fact that cannot be allowed to be heard.
DeleteThe problem with the "moral" case for SSM (or, more broadly, that homosexual intercourse is as rightly ordered as heterosexual intercourse) is that it is contrary to biology. As any child can figure out, biology matters, and as Phil R reminds us, biology matters in the moral sense. It is too tall of an order to come up with a moral argument sufficient to trump those facts -- which is why it is impermissible for them to be spoken in polite society. It is only by ignoring those facts, in favor of the two guys on the wedding cake, that a case for SSM can be made on the basis of "rights".
(Warning: Graphic.) Keith: exactly! My friend Adrienne explained this well.
ReplyDeleteJust out of the blue now, in a cloud of eerie theramin music that materialized out of nowhere, I suddenly find that when I think about Phil Robertson I suddenly have the inexplicable urge to buy a copy of TLWORL for the holdidays.
ReplyDeleteWhat is happening to me?!?
What mysterious forces are at work manipulating my poor, dumb brain stem?!?
Could I be possessed by demons? Or, worse - ruthieless pimps?!?
Keith