Right on, Dinesh
DD on the "Conservative Hissy Fit". Excerpt:
McCain is conservative not only on foreign policy but also on economic and social issues. He's at least as conservative as Bush and almost as conservative as Reagan. Yes, he disagrees with some conservative pundits on immigration and campaign finance reform. So what? Are conservatives so politically immature that they cannot distinguish the primary issues from the secondary ones?
I'm heading to Washington D.C. tonight to speak tomorrow afternoon to the main session at the Conservative Political Action Committee (CPAC). I am scheduled to talk on how to counter the new atheism. But I'm tempted to speak instead on why conservatives need to stop this childish tantrum and grow up a little. We need to work with McCain as much as he needs to work with us.
ok, so everytime someone writes an article like this or makes a point like this (D'Souza, Hudson, Medved) you're going to link to it? It's looking a little like overcompensation at this point. if you think i and conservatives like haven't already heard that we're "hysterical", "immature", and "having a hissy fit", you're wrong.
ReplyDeleteWell, I'm sorry. I guess I shouldn't post things which I think make sense. After all, Rush Limbaugh only voiced his opposition to John McCain once or twice. This is truly becoming an "obsessoblog".
ReplyDeleteSo what are we going to do?
ReplyDeleteMore important than focusing on McCain, I am trying to think what valuables I can hide in body cavities.
Pauli, what are you going to wear to re-education camp?
It's time to dust off Solzhenitsyn.
Camp? Maybe I'll go down shooting. My 6-year-old can probably drop grenades out the window at least....
ReplyDeleteIt doesn't happen like that. Didn't you ever see the Godfather?
ReplyDeleteThe guy whose going to hit you is the one in charge of security. You should know better. It's all about safety. You should have gone to Italian school.
So you'll be at a parent teacher's conference and they'll nab you for not filling out a form correctly. Poof you're in a work detail in North Dakota chopping weeds on Tom Daschle's ranch.
Anyway, I got a good workout you can do in an 8X10 cell if you want it. You can get it done in like 20 minutes between rounds.
My aunt's friend is a piano teacher from Slovakia. She told me that the commies put her under the lights when she was like 12 during high stalinism. Her mom told her to play Chopin in her head when they interrogated her. Her crime was that her dad rebuilt the factories after the war and made them successful. She said to me about 7 years ago, "Don't you see what is happening here? Why do let them do this?" We were talking about multiculturalism as I recall and education. She's lives off her music teaching so she is around a lot of grade school students.
Beat the Democrats in the Fall and then spend the next four years as conservatives opposing the bad ideas McCain will attempt to implement. I have no illusions about McCain, but he is infinitely preferable to Clinton or Obama.
ReplyDeleteAmen to that, Donald!
ReplyDeleteYay! Another sanctimonious article about how conservatives who object to McCain are all throwing a hissy fit! Super duper.
ReplyDeleteSeriously, do people think this is actually going to convince conservatives to vote for McCain?
do people think this is actually going to convince conservatives to vote for McCain?
ReplyDeleteWell, saying "hissy fit" is not going to change Dobson's mind, I'll agree. But the substance of this piece is not being engaged by the anti-McCain people here.
But the substance of this piece is not being engaged by the anti-McCain people here.
ReplyDeleteThere is no "substance" to this piece. It is an ad hominem attack that is devoid of nay meaning. I engaged whatever "substance" is to be found in this article here.
And, again, I am not anti-McCain, but I find all these articles do little to convince those that are.
Medved has another stop whining article today. It cites stats from ACU. I think I saw it on townhall. Donald is correct by the way.
ReplyDelete"There is no "substance" to this piece. It is an ad hominem attack that is devoid of nay meaning."
ReplyDeleteI agree. apparently instead of making some noise during *primary season* conservatives are supposed to meekly fall in line and not say anything that might make McCain think he has to move further to the right.
McCain is supposed to represent us, not the other way around. There is NO good reason conservatives should remain silent during the primary (other than to convince McCainiacs of their dignity, maturity, or lack of hissiness...oh wait, that's not a good reason)
Cmon Pauli,
ReplyDeleteLosers need time to lick their wounds before giving in. I know I would. I'd guess that the most substantive opposition to Mac is over immigration. He's just not one of them and never will be. Still, his position is about the same as Bush's and I don't remember Bush getting this flack in 00 or 04.
The thing that amazes me though is all this talk about how McCain isn't a real conservative considering that the talk radio folks I listen to were more than willing to accept pro abortion Rudy. Not much support for the social conservative wing there.
McCain is the nominee because he has the broadest appeal to a variety of factions in the conservative movement. Because he doesn't indentify too closely with any of them, the enthusiasm is muted.
Losers need time to lick their wounds before giving in.
ReplyDeleteThanks, silliconvalleysteve. You guys are really building that bridge.
I'd guess that the most substantive opposition to Mac is over immigration.
And tax cuts. And McCain-Feingold. And global warming policy. And the gang of 14 deal. And Guantanamo.
Still, his position is about the same as Bush's and I don't remember Bush getting this flack in 00 or 04.
You are correct here, but he was absolutely crushed on the topic all over the blogosphere.
It continues to amaze me that people are genuinely unaware of why conservatives are not happy about McCain. How about actually acknowledging some of his faults and then making a persuasive case? It actually isn't that hard.
But really, keep up with the name calling. That will really draw fellow conservatives into the McCain camp.
Aside from diverging on on policy, i think many conservative just plain don't trust him. I see in him the "warmongering" tendencies that democrats always accuse our side of promoting. Some of his rhetoric (i forget which speech, but i'm sure he repeats it) he refers to the U.S. in language usually reserved for references to God. Not to mention his legendary temper, which makes me think he's unstable.
ReplyDeleteBut even if Dinesh is right, and McCain is no where near as bad as we think he is, i do believe Huckabee or Keyes to be a far better choice.
Yeah, Alan Keyes... remind me: what general election has he ever won? And you talk about McCain being unstable? Keyes needs some serious medication, possibly a tranquilizer dart.
ReplyDeleteRe: Huckabee: I have respect for him and I know one of his delegates, great guy. He'll be a major player in the party for years to come. Some of his rhetoric is too populist for me.